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By: robotslave

…were still at Yale, I’d try to pass on to him… That is so, so pathetic. Over here at Princebridge (you wouldn’t have heard of it, it’s exclusive) we’ve developed an advanced technique for...

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By: Dan Hardie

I wasn’t going to comment again until I’d finished the book. But that now won’t be until Friday at the earliest, so some quick hit-and-run comments on some of the things I find problematic about it...

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By: Dan Hardie

Sorry, third paragraph above should read: ‘But Graeber seems *to think that showing that* is the same as proving that money, debt and financial institutions are morally tarnished and perhaps inherently...

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By: JW Mason

Just want to say that I think Debt is one of the most important books published in the past year — certainly it had the largest impact on me — and I’m thrilled that CT is doing this seminar.

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By: Timothy Scriven

“I believe it’s been more or less accepted since the 1800s that an anarchist utopia would function best in a small community with a very modest standard of living (due to a limited division of labor)....

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By: Henri Vieuxtemps

Timothy, not to abolish the division of labor, of course, but to limit it, surely? I haven’t been to meetings, but it seems to me that, generally speaking, high complexity creates the need for a...

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By: robotslave

@61 – I’m skeptical of the notion that high complexity creates the need for hierarchy. I would agree, though, that quite often in practice, high complexity is hierarchy. In the example given, consider...

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By: Bill Benzon

Chris: Your last paragraph sounds a bit like a plug for the Transition Movement, which originated in England and which, as you may know, has since spread to 30 countries around the world. It’s very...

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By: Phil

For the helicopter in particular When I used to read the anarchist & left-libertarian press, and when anarchists used to say the words “after the revolution”, I remember reading a mostly-serious...

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By: caspar henderson

I haven’t read all the comments in response to Chris Betram’s post but I have finished Graeber’s book. I’m no convinced by CB’s conclusion that perhaps our best possibilities lie not in grand schemes...

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By: Alex

Phil: I am now imagining a sort of anarchist great chain of being, in which all technologies and artefacts are classified on this basis. Unfortunately, the very effort to create such a taxonomy would...

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By: ajay

I am now imagining a sort of anarchist great chain of being, in which all technologies and artefacts are classified on this basis. I was imagining it in less elevated terms as the equivalent of whether...

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By: robotslave

@67 Why the restriction on harming others? And even if we stipulate that autonomous “diversity of tactics” is somehow outlawed by The Revolution, who’s going to stop your helicopter-cult from harming...

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By: Utisz

@54 Glad you brought in the word ‘interstitial’. It’s used quite a bit in John Holloway’s Crack Capitalism (2010), so yes it is gaining currency.

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By: John Bedell

For anyone who wants to understand the transition from more personal to more market dominated and bureaucratic societies, I recommend Roberto Calasso, especially The Ruin of Kasch. As for actually...

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